Multi-Shot – Ruh Roh!

In episode 21 of the Hunting Party Podcast we interviewed Kruf who was one of the hunters who got the world’s first Lich King (25), and heroic Lich King (25) kills. In the interview he said the most important thing for hunters is to constantly be firing something and not sitting idle. I agreed with him whole heartedly – until today.

Before I start I’m going to give some benefit of doubt here and chalk this one up to transitioning from Survival to Marksman. Even with that there are some things here that are just plain ugly.

What you’re looking at is a World of Logs timeline view from a recent Festergut (25) normal encounter. For more information on using World of Logs you can check out this post at OutDPS.com.

So where to begin? See the spell labeled speed? That’s a haste potion. The hunter is pre-potting so he can use another one later in the fight. Good stuff, and something I don’t do enough of.

Next we see an adjustment to his tracker. This is for the 5% damage boost from the Improved Tracking talent. The problem here is that this was entirely unnecessary since he was previously tracking undead. Tracking should already be in place when you enter the instance.

We also have Misdirection and Hunter’s Mark. Both fine. When the fight starts he leads off with Serpent Sting, having macro’d Silencing Shot and Kill Command. Nothing bad about that.

Next we see Chimera Shot followed by Multi-Shot. Ruh Roh! Next we get Rapid Fire and Readiness, followed by Chimera and Multi-Shot. Ruh Roh! With Rapid Fire cooking the poor bastard gets hit by Vile Gas. Things move along and then we start to see some Serpent Sting casts – lots of them. Ruh Roh!

The second image is from end of the fight. Note, the two images do not comprise the entire timeline. What’s notable in this second image is that only one Kill Shot was fired once the boss was in execute range, and there were no additional Rapid Fire/Readiness combinations. All at once, Ruh-Roh!

Let’s talk a little bit about what’s wrong here. First, Multi-Shot is not Aimed Shot; at least not for Marksman, and to some degree Survival. The following talents all affect Aimed Shot and not Multi-Shot,

  • Marked for Death – Increases your damage done by your shots and the damage done by your pet’s special abilities by 5% on marked targets, and increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Aimed Shot, Arcane Shot, Steady Shot, Kill Shot and Chimera Shot by 10%.
  • Piercing Shots – Your critical Aimed, Steady and Chimera Shots cause the target to bleed for 30% of the damage dealt over 8 sec.
  • Improves Steady Shot – Your Steady Shot hits have a 15% chance to increase the damage done by your next Aimed Shot, Arcane Shot or Chimera Shot by 15%, and reduce the mana cost of your next Aimed Shot, Arcane Shot or Chimera Shot by 20%.
  • Master Marksman – Increases your critical strike chance by 5%, and reduces the Mana cost of your Steady Shot, Aimed Shot, and Chimera Shot by 25%.
  • Sniper Training (SV only) – Increases the critical strike chance of your Kill Shot ability by 15%, and while standing still for 6 sec, you gain Sniper Training increasing the damage done by your Steady Shot, Aimed Shot, Black Arrow and Explosive Shot by 6% for 15 sec..

This is huge, especially Piercing Shots which is a big part of Marksman damage. Aimed Shot is second only to Chimera Shot in the MM rotation. It does more damage and costs less mana than Multi-Shot. That’s not to say that Multi-Shot does not have it’s place, it does. Single target boss fights are not one of them though.

I’m not going to go into the whole nuance of Readiness/Rapid Fire other than to say you need to monitor these closely and use them appropriately as the length of the fight dictates. In this fight you probably should have had at least three rapid fires if not four.

As for Serpent Sting, Marksman hunters should only have to recast this if it’s fallen off (which shouldn’t be an issue with Festergut), or you get a buff such as Exploit Weakness and want maintain a buffed Serpent Sting on the target. If you look at the end of the fight we see Serpent Sting followed by Serpent Sting, followed by Misdirection, followed by Serpent Sting. Doesn’t make much sense to me.

Finally, Kill Shot is our biggest shot. It’s priority should be greater than anything else we’ve got. This is true for Marksman, Survival and Beast Master. Once you get into execute range there’s no reason not to be watching this and getting off as many as you can. Most fights I’ve seen, there is usually time to get off more than one.

So at the end of the day where does all of this shoddy huntering get you? Right smack dab in the middle of the pack. Almost 8K dps. Not the worst, but not nearly as good as it could’ve been. If you’re on a progression fight and bumping up against an enrage timer, “not the worst” probably won’t be good enough.

PS: Ruh Roh – Astro or Scooby-Doo? Debate!

5 comments

  1. Astro?! I lol'd. I cast too many Steadys when my graphics decide to start chunking in the FPS department (damn slow graphics card). For the most part I think I'm ok otherwise.

  2. I have a theory why you would see a bunch of SerpStings fired after each other: "Paranoia"- He is seeing an awesome combo of procs and fires off a sting, but to make sure he really did fire off his sting he keeps spamming it and only stops when he is sure that the "super" sting has been applied to the target.

    I can get caught like this too, I think on occasions I double fire off a sting to make sure. I allow this to happen because the status of my action bars (on GCD) is hard to see. With a few tweaks to my UI I should be able to avoid this. Shadowstreak's article (OUTdps) on OmniCC was timed well…I was planning to install it this week!

    As for multishot, I am presumming he used to be SV and someone gave him the gears at how multishot is basically the same as aimed shot and that he was a nub for using it. That impression lasted and carried over through when he switched to MM. At least he is lucky and has someone to help him out.
    Oh yeah…swapping professions: the cost to dps gain ratio is so minimal it is just not worth it imo.

  3. @Bindura – Yeah I've done the Serpent spam before for that exact reason. I also died once on Rotface trying to reapply a 'super sting' and wasn't paying attention to what was going on around me.

    …and then there was time I consumed two brezes on Putricide b/c of Malleable Goo… I could go on and on I suppose. Ah, the joys of learning new encounters.

  4. It is curious that the person is capable and with it to pre-pot but is not educated in so many other ways.

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